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Sunday, June 02, 2013

The new Dawn rising

Golden Dawn and Movimento 5 Stelle look to be the first Nationalist parties to take back control of their countries from governments under the control of the global fascists:
It wasn't just that their symbols looked like swastikas. Or that thousands of Greek flags filled the marble square beneath the Acropolis. Or that they were marking the 560th anniversary of the fall of Constantinople.

It was that there were so many of them. Angry men and angry women furiously screaming "Greece belongs to Greeks" in the heart of ancient Athens, as tourists – some befuddled, some shocked – looked on or fled at the sight of neo-Nazis coming to town.

"Now we are in the thousands," thundered Nikos Michaloliakos, the bespectacled mathematician who leads Greece's far-right Golden Dawn party. "Long live victory!"

Like the soldiers on whom they model themselves, the Greeks who subscribe to the ultra-nationalist, neo-fascist dogma of Golden Dawn are the first to say they are at war. This week, as Antonis Samaras's coalition government struggled to contain an escalating crisis over efforts to curb the extremists, it was they who appeared to be winning that war.
There is going to be war.  In Europe, it will be the European nationalists against the globalists and their African and Muslim jannisaries.  In the USA, it is going to be a confusing affair, with shifting alliances between the Black, Brown, Red, and White Americas, with Black, Brown, and Red America serving the interests of the globalists.

Of course, to say "there is going to be war" is somewhat misleading.  The war actually began in 1965; the first invasion soon after.  This nationalist response is a belated one, and is the result of the various nations finding themselves backed into a corner from which there is no other escape.

The globalists are going to try to crack down and keep the nationalists out of power, but the resulting exposure of what has always been their anti-democratic nature is going to completely eliminate their ability to claim any moral superiority over the nationalists.

This doesn't mean Golden Dawn or the other nationalist parties are full of well-meaning angels.  Make no mistake about it, they are simply the lesser evil of the two options on offer.

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130 Comments:

Anonymous Stunner June 02, 2013 1:27 PM  

"All politics in this country are a dress rehersal for civil war'" ...Billy Beck, Two Four blog

Anonymous The other skeptic June 02, 2013 1:31 PM  

Too many balls in the air. They are going to drop one sooner or later.

Anonymous karsten June 02, 2013 1:45 PM  

Golden Dawn in Greece and Jobbik in Hungary are the two brightest lights for Europe. There are other nationalist parties in other countries, but most of them deferentially toe the philo-Semitic party line -- which means that even should they succeed, the rot would start all over again. But Jobbik and Golden Dawn know better. They may not be perfect, but they're sincere patriots and will hopefully inspire others in the rest of the continent to defend their homelands, culturally and physically.

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo June 02, 2013 1:59 PM  

As awful as mass immigration is, cheering for foreigners and Jews to get beaten up is not a good thing.

Note that Golden Dawn, in particular, is quite violent. Also, Greece isn't exactly being swamped by Muslims (as far as I know.)

Anonymous Aeoli Pera June 02, 2013 2:05 PM  

Rising sun motif; batten down those hatches.

Anonymous stats79 June 02, 2013 2:06 PM  

As awful as mass immigration is, cheering for foreigners and Jews to get beaten up is not a good thing.

Why not? They're cheering for us to get beaten up? Have you not been paying attention for the last 50 years?

Anonymous Geoff June 02, 2013 2:07 PM  

when a GD freedom party in the U.S. starts calling the republicans a bunch of traitors, my wallet is open

Anonymous Daybreaker June 02, 2013 2:15 PM  

Being the lesser evil compared to white genocide through mass immigration and forced integration makes you worth fighting for.

Anonymous stats79 June 02, 2013 2:15 PM  

Note that Golden Dawn, in particular, is quite violent. Compared to what? An all black, Muslim neighborhood? I doubt it.

Also, Greece isn't exactly being swamped by Muslims (as far as I know.) Muslims immigrants make up 4% of the population of Greece. 500,000 muslims in a country of 11 million is more than enough to be worried.

You really have no clue, do you?

Anonymous The other skeptic June 02, 2013 2:16 PM  

Also, Greece isn't exactly being swamped by Muslims (as far as I know.)

It's too late when they are being swamped.

Blogger RandalThorn June 02, 2013 2:22 PM  

Not only that Stats79, but I am from Greece and I cant attest that we have a population of 2 million illegal immigratns in our bowels.

Blogger Raylan June 02, 2013 2:26 PM  

What did the elites expect, that the people would calmly accept their own annihilation? 50 years is not a long time for nations that have been around for centuries, some thousands of years. America's time for a Golden Dawn-esque reckoning is coming, make no mistake about it.

Anonymous VD June 02, 2013 2:28 PM  

As awful as mass immigration is, cheering for foreigners and Jews to get beaten up is not a good thing.

It is not a good thing. And yet, as I noted, it is actually the lesser of the two evils involved.

Anonymous Outlaw X June 02, 2013 2:30 PM  

This doesn't mean Golden Dawn or the other nationalist parties are full of well-meaning angels. Make no mistake about it, they are simply the lesser evil of the two options on offer.

As a redneck and a hunter when you corner an animal an give him no escape he becomes a vicious animal. Too bad the globalists were never educated by nature and its reality. They have no Idea what they are about to face, whether armed or unarmed as in guns because all are armed.

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo June 02, 2013 2:33 PM  

@ stats79 et al.

My point is that however you feel about them, they're there. Restricting immigration, then doing your damndest to assimilate whoever's already over there is the best solution. Less bloodshed that way.

However, this will not happen. Instead, they will aim at the perfect instead of the good, and they'll get crushed once the inevitable war starts and the US gets involved. Just like that, the Greeks are out of a country.

Blogger Bob Wallace June 02, 2013 2:36 PM  

I've said for years there is no linear cause-and-effect except in billiards. The U.S. population replaced by Third World foreigners? Ain't gonna happen. Europe becoming Muslim? A tipping point is reached - then blam!

This I'll add; there is an old saying that the dark night of fascism is always supposed to come down in the U.S. but always lands in Europe.

Anonymous Anonagain June 02, 2013 2:37 PM  

Backlash's a bitch.

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo June 02, 2013 2:37 PM  

@ VD

So you're saying that there are only two choices: accepting mass immigration and foreign domination, or beating up foreigners and Jews.

I don't see it that way.

Anonymous realmatt June 02, 2013 2:41 PM  

Far Right National Socialist...

Okaaayy then.

Is there such a thing as an educated journalist?

Anonymous realmatt June 02, 2013 2:47 PM  



Albanian Muslims. Hell, even if they weren't Muslim, who would want a bunch of crazy Albanians running around?

Anonymous Mike M. June 02, 2013 2:48 PM  

It's not a matter of beating up. anyone It's a matter of identifying and expelling foreigners, particularly those on welfares.

Unlimited immigration from Third World countries floods the labor market with low-end workers. Great if you're hiring cheap domestic help or sweatshop workers, terrible if you're a native without the ability or education for a high-end job.

Then toss in the encouragement of the immigrants to NOT assimilate. Add in the twist of Islamic terror, and you've got a recipe for trouble.

There comes a time when people say, "Enough!" And that day is arriving.

Anonymous Anonagain June 02, 2013 2:51 PM  

So you're saying that there are only two choices: accepting mass immigration and foreign domination, or beating up foreigners and Jews.

I don't see it that way.


No. The Greeks, and every other EU member, have been given no choice at all. They are being forced to accept the unacceptable. This is the reaction of people who have no other recourse. It always will be.

Anonymous meh June 02, 2013 2:58 PM  

"Not only that Stats79, but I am from Greece and I cant attest that we have a population of 2 million illegal immigratns in our bowels."

Golden Dawn will administer the enema.

Anonymous fnn June 02, 2013 2:58 PM  

My point is that however you feel about them, they're there. Restricting immigration, then doing your damndest to assimilate whoever's already over there is the best solution. Less bloodshed that way.

Tell the Israelis to open their borders and assimilate whoever shows up.

Anonymous Jack Amok June 02, 2013 3:02 PM  

So you're saying that there are only two choices: accepting mass immigration and foreign domination, or beating up foreigners and Jews.

I don't see it that way.


Of course there are other - better - ways. But this is what happens when the Leftist/Globalists use their power to shame and bully any opposition into silence. The nice, respectful folks who might offer a better, more inclusive, solution are the ones silenced. It's the more violent, the less willing to compromise, who end up being the alternative.

If the people in power demonize any dissent, no matter how mild (see the previous thread about the SFWA, which is a teapot version of what Leftists do in general), you can't expect the opposition to be staffed by people who give a damn about someone else's opinion. The Tea Party is made up of non-violent people who think taxes are too high, and they're accused of being terrorists, bigots and criminals.

Anonymous A Visitor June 02, 2013 3:04 PM  

Restricting immigration, then doing your damndest to assimilate whoever's already over there is the best solution. Less bloodshed that way.

Agreed. Also, the Nazis were left wing. I read that article and now have to ask, has the journalist ever heard of primary documents?

Anonymous Ton June 02, 2013 3:10 PM  

The war started and was won in 1860 with the yankees and lincoln. Everything else has simply been the continuation of that ideology

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo June 02, 2013 3:11 PM  

@ Jack Amok

Oh, trust me, I'm well aware of that inconvenient fact.

Anonymous fnn June 02, 2013 3:19 PM  

Left-wing supporters of the present regime (though they're too dumb to realize what they're doing) killed three Greek workers in 2010. Tell me what GD has done to match that.

Anonymous Jack Amok June 02, 2013 3:21 PM  

Oh, trust me, I'm well aware of that inconvenient fact.

Then you're also aware that, while there might be better ways, until the Leftist are out of power there won't be any better choices?

Anonymous John June 02, 2013 3:24 PM  

I think the best way to describe what's going on in Europe is "appeasement." All the stuff the media is doing reminds me of Britain trying to appease Hitler.

Blogger Rantor June 02, 2013 3:28 PM  

The EU is what you get when bureaucrats try to build an empire. The problem with Bureaucrats is they while as individuals they are diffident and dull, as a group they become conceited and confident. Let us hope their dullness and incompetence ensures they will lose this fight. And quickly.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera June 02, 2013 3:29 PM  

Off-topic:

"A paper has come to our attention that provides strong evidence against the supposed representativeness problem across cohorts (e.g. Alexander, 2013). The study in question is that of Wilkinson and Allison (1989) using a sample of 5,324 visitors to the London Science Museum, which is situated at the exact site of Galton’s 19th century Anthropometric Laboratory in South Kensington. All visitors undertook psychophysical testing on a simple reaction time-measuring apparatus, just as the people in Galton’s study did. Of these mixed-sex participants 1,189 were aged between 20 and 29, and are thus highly similar to the age range employed in our own study. Their simple RT mean was substantially slower than the weighted 1889 RT mean (245 ms vs. 194.06 ms)..."

http://drjamesthompson.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/original-paper-high-quality-replication.html

Anonymous VD June 02, 2013 3:31 PM  

I don't see it that way.

I'm sure you don't. Most people are far too short-sighted to see the obvious. No doubt you're shocked and appalled by the rise of Golden Dawn and murderous muslims running amok in London.

I'm not. Not only did I expect these things, I know they're just prelude. And it's almost surely going to involve a lot worse than "beating up".

Blogger Nate June 02, 2013 3:33 PM  

"I'm not. Not only did I expect these things, I know they're just prelude. And it's almost surely going to involve a lot worse than "beating up"."

Yep.

More and more I find myself conserned that decades from now our grand children will lament the poor muslim victims of the second holocaust...

Blogger David F. June 02, 2013 3:36 PM  

The best short, general definitions of "the Right" I've heard came from Paul Gottfried: "The Right is that which opposes the Left."

National socialism is modern and leftist in its use of bureaucracy and scientific management, and in its quasi-utopianism and hostility to traditional authorities. However it can also correctly be classed as a movement of the Right because it is explicitly fights for hierarchy and racial and national preservation. No left wing movement would do such a thing.

Blogger ajw308 June 02, 2013 3:39 PM  

ChrisisEraDynamo, What do see happening? Unrealistic wishes aren't a viable answer, not unless you're running for Miss Universe and want to talk about doing your part for world peace.

Anonymous Anonagain June 02, 2013 3:48 PM  

The media is the Left's fifth column in this war. I don't understand why the opposition does not target these foul creatures. Journalists should have every reason to be nervous with the bylines on their treasonous, globalist propaganda, yet, they screech, malign, manipulate and lie with complete impunity.

One dead journalist is worth a hundred who are going to watch their big fat, treasonous Leftist mouths.





Anonymous anon123 June 02, 2013 3:48 PM  

@Crisis
It is the nature of Mohammadans to dominate through force. It is not in their nature to assimilate into any culture they infect.

Anonymous Ton June 02, 2013 3:49 PM  

The war started and was won in 1860 with the yankees and lincoln. Everything else has simply been the continuation of that ideology

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo June 02, 2013 3:51 PM  

@ ajw308

I'm not salivating at the prospect of innocents dying, that's all, even foreign ones.

Anonymous fidgit June 02, 2013 3:55 PM  

A French parliamentary committee has voted, with overwhelming support, to remove immunity from Marine Le Pen and prosecute her for saying, in 2010, that the sight of muslims praying in the street reminded her of the Nazi occupation of France.

France's nationalists need to kick it into gear. Soon.

Anonymous Red Comet June 02, 2013 4:01 PM  

with Black, Brown, and Red America serving the interests of the globalists.

I think you'll see a lot of white leftoids mixed in on this side in the US. At least until the money allowing them to live in literal and physical fantasy land runs out. Even then I've seen them still cling to nutty illusions in the face of undeniable reality.

This basically:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NafrFdBXfrk

(Note: the audio comes from a late 70's National Lampoon show which may or may not still be available streaming on Netflix)

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo June 02, 2013 4:02 PM  

@ fidgit

Here we see the other side of the coin. Criticizing Islam is illegal, but criticizing French people is okay.

When Muslims behave thuggishly, the leftists give them the benefit of the doubt. But when Anders Breivik or Golden Dawn do so, suddenly the leftists find their moral compass and go on about how we need to stamp out racism and hate.

Hypocrites.

It's just pathetic how much the leftists hate their own people. Doesn't mean I want mass violence; I just want to show that the Left is authoritarian and full of crap.

Anonymous The other skeptic June 02, 2013 4:02 PM  

I'm not salivating at the prospect of innocents dying, that's all, even foreign ones.

Have you done anything about Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom's torture and murder?

That is the result of the presence of barbaric minorities among us.

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo June 02, 2013 4:04 PM  

The weirdest thing about this is that the Muslims are as far-right as they come (socially), but the leftists make excuses for them.

Anonymous FP June 02, 2013 4:04 PM  

Minnesotan-Somali tolerance in action:

http://glpiggy.net/2013/06/02/not-in-sweden/

Anonymous Scintan June 02, 2013 4:10 PM  

A French parliamentary committee has voted, with overwhelming support, to remove immunity from Marine Le Pen and prosecute her for saying, in 2010, that the sight of muslims praying in the street reminded her of the Nazi occupation of France.

France's nationalists need to kick it into gear. Soon.


The hell with France. That's about to kick in right here, if the lefties (and far too many on the right) have their way:

This is the future

Anonymous Anonagain June 02, 2013 4:19 PM  

The weirdest thing about this is that the Muslims are as far-right as they come (socially), but the leftists make excuses for them.

Not weird at all. Muslims hate Christians. And there are billions of them - a handy tool for undoing Western Civilization. Just allow them to move in, and the inevitable takes its course. Destabilize, then normalize. Voila. New World Order.

Anonymous Sensei June 02, 2013 4:23 PM  

Vox, did you leave Asian Americans out of your equation for any particular reason?

Anonymous The other skeptic June 02, 2013 4:26 PM  

"If a Muslim had posted ‘How to Wink at a Christian,’ could you imagine what would have happened?" Killian asked, according to the newspaper.

Yup. There would be a lot of cheering and laughter from the progressives and their enablers.

Anonymous Geoff June 02, 2013 4:41 PM  

Marine Le Pen isn't likely to be what France ends up with, unless France smartens up right quick. Her replacement's going to have bloody solutions.

Blogger Markku June 02, 2013 4:54 PM  

Yup. There would be a lot of cheering and laughter from the progressives and their enablers.

Exactly. We would be asked to consider our evil ways, because we forced the poor Muslim to take such an extreme a stance. Those who won't consider and be repentant, are racists.

Anonymous Outlaw X June 02, 2013 5:05 PM  

I'm sure you don't. Most people are far too short-sighted to see the obvious.

Damn that is so true, when my friends were losing me as friends in the GWB administration I told them he won't be president forever. I lost almost all my friends. I wonder what they think now since we don't talk anymore. Life is hard and you have to stand up for what is right and if the dumb fuckers never figure it out (The constitutional republicans that say "hard times mean hard measures, find out you were right and won't even apologize to you) they not only do not deserve your attention but your disgust. They think you have betrayed them when they have betrayed their own and liberty. It pisses me off but I let them go they are fools.

Cut your losses they were never friends of mine.

Blogger ajw308 June 02, 2013 5:09 PM  

ChrisisEraDynamo, I'm not saying that you are salivating at a bloody outcome. If you go re-read my question to you, I think you'll see I imply that you may desire an unrealistic peaceful outcome.

If you don't a bloody or a bloodier outcome developing, what is it that you implied you see?

Anonymous Anonagain June 02, 2013 5:12 PM  

It's just pathetic how much the leftists hate their own people.

You clearly haven't the slightest understanding of the game being played here. Leftists hate people. Period. The individual, freedom, free thought, self-determination, self-sufficiency are all anathema to these twisted control freaks.

Leftists don't care about fags, wymenz, little brown people, big black people, Muslims or any of their other myriad Politically Correct, protected classes.

These classes only serve as tools of the Left to destabilize the traditional family unit, and its capacity for self-determination and self-sufficiency. Humans are not precocious animals like sea turtles who crack open their eggs and off they go to face the world. Humans need a tremendous support structure from birth through their entire lives. The only alternative to a strong family unit is big government.

Leftists want to create and control the collective of all human beings. It's that simple. And they're more than willing to destroy everyone in the process.

Blogger Markku June 02, 2013 5:14 PM  

Leftists don't care about fags, wymenz, little brown people, big black people, Muslims or any of their other myriad Politically Correct, protected classes.

C.S. Lewis said that there are eras when everybody wants to either be a slave or a slavemaster. I think this is what's going on here. They DO like the Muslims, because they are strong. Leftists want to be dominated, and Christendom has become too weak due to all this "tolerance".

Anonymous Jack Amok June 02, 2013 5:15 PM  

The surest path to a bloody solution is rejecting bloodless solutions because they are "hurtful."

The perfect isn't just the enemy of the good, sometimes it's the enemy of the bad but not as bad as it could be.

Anonymous Anonagain June 02, 2013 5:26 PM  

Leftists want to be dominated, and Christendom has become too weak due to all this "tolerance".

Those would be the useful idiots. But that desire to be dominated doesn't explain their viciousness towards those who do not want to be dominated. More than anything, they hate individualism and nonconformity because it works against the collective.

I was talking mainly about those who are pulling the strings - those who have been pushing Christendom's demise, and creating that vacuum that is making Islam look like the father that Leftists never had, because the traditional family is being to purposely undermined. It all works together against the individual and for big, controlling government.

Anonymous Mutt June 02, 2013 5:37 PM  

"I think you'll see a lot of white leftoids mixed in on this side in the US. At least until the money allowing them to live in literal and physical fantasy land runs out. Even then I've seen them still cling to nutty illusions in the face of undeniable reality."

Right. Though Anglo culture is superior to any other out there, whites in the future need to be more discerning with the enemy within ie... white leftists within their own ranks. They present more of a problem that any non-white who embraces Anglo culture.

Anonymous Mutt June 02, 2013 5:49 PM  

"Leftists hate people. Period."

Starting with leftist peons at the bottom that invariably hate themselves too making their recruitment easy for the narcissistic psychopathic leftists at the top.

Anonymous Anonagain June 02, 2013 5:52 PM  

Frankly, if I had to choose between the Left's fascistic collective and complete anarchy, I would choose anarchy.

There is nothing more dehumanizing and soul withering than living under the thumb of an oppressive regime where every aspect of one's life is not only controlled, but forced to conform to ideals that are diametrically opposed to one's own ideals.

There certainly are worse things than death.

Anonymous Thornham June 02, 2013 5:59 PM  

I greatly look forward to the day when the number of Somalis in Minnesota is reduced, from about 50,000 to about 0.

Anonymous Anonagain June 02, 2013 6:15 PM  

There certainly are worse things than death.

And if one doesn't make the effort to fight against those things, the entropy of this fallen world dictates that one will be faced with them.

Leftists are entropy in human form.

Anonymous The other skeptic June 02, 2013 6:15 PM  

Gun Free Zones for those who want the info.

Anonymous kawaika June 02, 2013 6:31 PM  

CrisisEraDynamo, what you are experiencing is normal, but wrong. The regressives are, to steal a Charlie Brooker insult, people shaped creatures. They are pod people who will destroy everything. Some of them may actually sing Amazing Grace, but most of them must hear us sing Amazing Rage. If you want your culture to survive you cannot outsource this. You do not have to feel happy about it, just as you do not have to feel happy about going to work.

The blood of the innocent foreigners is on their hands, not yours, but I would argue that they cannot be considered completely innocent because most of them understand that foreigners are invaders. If the situation were reversed, you already know how you would be treated.

Anonymous The other skeptic June 02, 2013 6:39 PM  

Soon, we can expect to see propaganda like this.

Anonymous DonReynolds June 02, 2013 6:42 PM  

Nobody wants to be blamed for firing the first shot. It is lost to history who fired first at Lexington, where about 80 colonial militia opposed a much larger British column on its march to Concord.

During the war that follows, both sides always blame the other for firing first. So it does not matter at all, who fires the shot "heard round the world". What matters is the fact that shooting started.

Blogger Some dude June 02, 2013 6:49 PM  

Make no mistake about it, they are simply the lesser evil of the two options on offer

No VD, you are wrong. They are not the "lesser" or "greater" evil, they are the resultant evil.

And after this, comes another one. God have pity on those of us who were stuck with coming down here in this generation. What the hell was I thinking when I agreed to come here?

Blogger Michael June 02, 2013 6:50 PM  

I'm all for nationalism...

But please hold the fascism and neo-nazism.

Such choices we have.

Anonymous augustina June 02, 2013 6:52 PM  

I don't have much sympathy for the Greeks. They have only themselves to blame for their predicament. What GD wants to do is blame the 'other.'

Greeks themselves decided en masse to not have enough children to replace themselves. They then decided to continually vote for one form of socialism after another to fund their 'sit around and drink coffee and bitch' lifestyle. These same globalist socialists that they elected were the ones who opened the door to third world immigration. The Greeks kept on voting them in, as long as they got their goodies. Now that TPTB have run out of 'other people's money,' they have cut down on the goodies and imposed 'austerity.'

So now the Greeks get mad and start blaming the immigrants. They should blame themselves, and the 'leadership' they continually elected for their problems.

You cannot fix a problem if you do not know its source.

Anonymous DonReynolds June 02, 2013 7:07 PM  

Men can have whatever they can keep....and that means keep other men from taking it from them. We have this land but to keep this land, we must defend it against those who would take it from us. It has never been any different and it never will be any different. Men can run away and hide, but they cannot take the land with them. It is a cruel world that men must contend with each other to keep what they hold, to survive in their own homeland, and to drive the wolf from the door.

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo June 02, 2013 7:25 PM  

@ augustina

I forgot about that aspect of it.

Golden Dawn is being really disingenuous, then.

Anonymous fnn June 02, 2013 7:37 PM  

Jobbik has kind of a nuanced position on Islam:

http://www.jobbik.com/vona_g%C3%A1bor_about_islam
(...)
"Considering all this, there’s only one culture left which seeks to preserve its traditions: it is the Islamic world. And of course I do not favour suicide bombers and ruthless wars but at the same time I declare that today the mankind’s last remaining bastions of traditional culture- experiencing the transcendent in everyday life- is the Islamic world. I say this as a Roman Catholic man.) Its success or failure, in the relation of the Islam and America/Israel is not as important for me as from the aspect of mankind. If Islam fails the lights will completely go out. There will be no foeman against the darkness of globalism. Then the history will really come to an end and there will be no happy end...."

Anonymous Pat Hannagan June 02, 2013 7:42 PM  

There is going to be war. In Europe, it will be the European nationalists against the globalists and their African and Muslim jannisaries.

As others have noted, the war has been ongoing for some time and the the #1 aggressor is Judeo-America. "The globalists" agenda is forced on all by the Judeo-American military.

Should GD succeed in Greece, or any other White nationalist party succeed anywhere, you can be sure Judeo-America will oppose it, and kill it. First by propaganda, then by economic isolation, then by very real bombs.

Just witness even here, at this bastion of nationalism, the recoil from "Some dude", "Michael", "augustina" and "CrisisEraDynamo". You can lay odds on that should GD or the like succeed these people will be fully in tow for their Judeo-American govt to intervene militarily.

VD himself opens with a contradiction, given his conclusion: "the first Nationalist parties to take back control of their countries from governments under the control of the global fascists"

The fascist nationalist parties will save us from the global fascists? That's too much for your Average Joe Judeo-American to digest. How does VD himself maintain the dissonance?

Things will proceed as they have throughout the 20th century right through to this century: Judeo-America will bring its might and power to bear on the forces of light, furthering the complete collapse into disintegration of our former nations.

Anonymous Roundtine June 02, 2013 7:46 PM  

So you're saying that there are only two choices: accepting mass immigration and foreign domination, or beating up foreigners and Jews.

Anders Breivik didn't beat up immigrants, he picked option C: Remove the leftists.

Anonymous fnn June 02, 2013 7:51 PM  

They then decided to continually vote for one form of socialism after another to fund their 'sit around and drink coffee and bitch' lifestyle.

Somehow I don't think GD would tolerate lazy hedonistic lifestyles if they were in power. You know, they kind of give off old-fashioned Germanic-style vibes.

Blogger Michael June 02, 2013 7:53 PM  

@Pat Hannagan "Just witness even here, at this bastion of nationalism, the recoil from "Some dude", "Michael", "augustina" and "CrisisEraDynamo". You can lay odds on that should GD or the like succeed these people will be fully in tow for their Judeo-American govt to intervene militarily."

Let's say you not put words in our mouths.

Your first problem is that you equate nationalism==fascism.

I don't want to see Greece or anywhere else fall under fascism. But if they do it's no business of ours and we have no more business bombing Greece than we did Egypt, etc.

Anonymous Pat Hannagan June 02, 2013 8:01 PM  

Your first problem is that you equate nationalism==fascism.

No I didn't. GD is nationalist, and it is fascist. You have a problem with the latter.

But if they do it's no business of ours and we have no more business bombing Greece than we did Egypt, etc.

I agree. But, your history demonstrates that you will make it your business.

Judeo-Americans cannot help but to make it their business. They are rabid when it comes to "fascism". Just see how VD rhetorically puts his opposition to the global communist-capitalist elite as "global fascists".

If I want an American to kill my enemy all I have to do is call that enemy a fascist.

Anonymous fnn June 02, 2013 8:08 PM  

Soon, we can expect to see propaganda like this

The hate propaganda began from virtually the moment Hitler took office. At the same time the Anglo-Americans studiously ignored the
many millions killed by the Soviets.


Stuff that happened in Soviet Union before Hitler came to power:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism#Soviet_repressions
Repressions and famines occurring in the Soviet Union under the regimes of Vladimir Lenin and Joseph Stalin described in the book include:

the executions of tens of thousands of hostages and prisoners

the murder of hundreds of thousands of rebellious workers and peasants from 1918 to 1922

the Russian famine of 1921, which caused the death of 5 million people

the extermination and deportation of the Don Cossacks in 1920

the murder of tens of thousands in concentration camps in the period between 1918 and 1930
(...)
the deportation of 2 million so-called "kulaks" from 1930 to 1932

the deaths of 4 million Ukrainians (Holodomor) and 2 million others during the famine of 1932 and 1933
(...)

Anonymous Anonagain June 02, 2013 8:08 PM  

Anders Breivik didn't beat up immigrants, he picked option C: Remove the leftists.

That is certainly another option - except one would prefer to exercise it without the sacrificing one's life part of it. And as is evident, this was a one-man operation. Breivik did not ask anyone else to make the sacrifice with him. Option C as a group effort would be civil war.

Blogger Michael June 02, 2013 8:10 PM  

@Pat Hannagan "You have a problem with the latter."

Yes I do. But if that's what Greece chooses, so be it.

"I agree. But, your history demonstrates that you will make it your business."

But that's not what you said. You named individuals who would support it. You were wrong.

That our stupid and out-of-control government might do such a thing is without question. But that has nothing to do with the individuals whose minds you think you can read.

Anonymous Pat Hannagan June 02, 2013 8:37 PM  

"But that's not what you said. You named individuals who would support it. You were wrong."

Fair enough, I take your word for it that you wouldn't. But, you did say:

I'm all for nationalism...

But please hold the fascism and neo-nazism.

Such choices we have.


You referred to "we", which I took as you aligning yourself with the nationalist aspirations of Greeks, which you're "all for", "But please hold the fascism and neo-nazism."

So, I see yet again this mixed message that comes from Judeo-Americans, which really isn't so mixed: you will oppose any form of White nationalism, so long as it is construed as fascism. Fascism negates nationalism for you, which you include "we".

But, again, I take your word that you would vehemently oppose intervention, even though your non-interventionsist parties have always lost the debate and Judeo-America always does intervene in opposition to any form of White nationalism.

Anonymous Pat Hannagan June 02, 2013 8:51 PM  

On the topic of GD and fascism, we should note that GD only has 18 seats of 300 in the Hellenic Parliament:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_legislative_election,_June_2012#Results

Yet, GD gets so much bad press in the Western media.

Note that SYRIZA (The Coalition of the Radical Left - Unitary Social Front) has 71, The Panhellenic Socialist Movement has 33, Democratic Left has 17, Communist Party of Greece has 12 for a total of 133. Yet, I repeat, it's the dread GD that gets the bad press.

In short, GD's political impact is negligible. It's boogeyman prominence in Western media (by which we mean Judeo-American) is because of the nature of the party - it is fascist!

Further example is that the only credible opposition to the ongoing Islamification of the West is by neocons who term the enemy "Islamofascists".

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamofascism)

It's not enough to simply oppose Islam for what it is. No, the only credible opposition is to conjoin Islam with fascism then, voila, we have a certifiable problem on our hands. All that needs removing is the fascists, then what remains is peaceful, kumbaya, Islam.

Anonymous Anonymous June 02, 2013 8:53 PM  

It seems to me not really a matter of left and right. People always seem to hate the 'near' enemy far more than the 'far' one. That's why native American tribes were always trying to line up white man's help to attack the neighbouring village or tribe, or why Indians Rajahs were trying to use British troops against one another. Now, it's those who would seek government aid against those who would rather live without, or takers against payers, or rationalizing intellectuals against those who ignore them or don't agree with their fantasy dogmas. They use the Muslims or other immigrants against those they hate, without regard for the consequences. They will also disappear like the eastern seaboard tribes in the Americas, but they would never believe that.
RonG

Anonymous Hunsdon June 02, 2013 8:59 PM  

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
JFK

Anonymous civilServant June 02, 2013 8:59 PM  

Christendom has become too weak due to all this "tolerance".

If Christendom (Catholicism? Greek Orthodox? Some crazy patchwork of Protestant enclaves?) were to regain its strength would it tolerate you?

Leftists hate people. Period.

Look at who Leftists are.

Anonymous Dr. Illusion June 02, 2013 9:00 PM  

It's just too bad we cannot have a strong Nationalist party here in the US. The govt would just call us terrorist and we'd end up in prison or killed by drones.

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo June 02, 2013 9:09 PM  

@ Pat

Golden Dawn is news because no one expected admirers of Nazism to rise politically in any EU country.

Blogger James Dixon June 02, 2013 9:16 PM  

> I don't see it that way.

Then get to work promoting your alternative, because right now those are the options that are on the table.

Blogger Some dude June 02, 2013 9:52 PM  

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Anonymous augustina June 02, 2013 9:56 PM  

Pat Hannagan: in no way can my post be construed as an endorsement of third world immigration. I merely pointed out that the underlying problem are the globalist socialists that the Greeks and others voted for and continued to do so. The Greeks, and everyone else here and in the Eurozone, get exactly what they deserve.

You should read more carefully. The blame lies in the mirror. We are all responsible, in one way or another for our mess. Blaming other groups for this won't help.

Greece and EU, and to a large extent the US fell lock stock and barrel for the whole globalist socialist anti-western culture lie.

They stopped having children, they broke up their families, they became dependent on the nanny state, they sent their kids to state indoctrination schools, and they abandoned their religion and culture.

It didn't work, and now they're mad. They can't figure out what went wrong. Too bad for them. If they believe in what they say, they should have stood up for it 20 - 30 years ago.

Anonymous Pat Hannagan June 02, 2013 9:58 PM  

Thanks to "Some dude" and "CrisisEraDynamo" I rest my case.

Anonymous JI June 02, 2013 10:06 PM  

Is there any chance that the liberal Westerners will just choose to roll over and die, and take everyone else in their societies with them? Sometimes I think it's inevitable because the pathetization of the West has gone so far.

Anonymous meh June 02, 2013 10:13 PM  

"I don't have much sympathy for the Greeks. They have only themselves to blame for their predicament. What GD wants to do is blame the 'other.'"

Pretty sure you're wrong about that. GD blames the people who created this mess, not just the immigrants.

"Greeks themselves decided en masse to not have enough children to replace themselves."

So did all developed countries. Japan for instance. But you don't see Japan filling up with Third World migrants.

"They then decided to continually vote for one form of socialism after another to fund their 'sit around and drink coffee and bitch' lifestyle."

GD didn't.

"These same globalist socialists that they elected were the ones who opened the door to third world immigration."

Which GD has always opposed.

"The Greeks kept on voting them in, as long as they got their goodies."

GD did not vote them in and didn't get any goodies.

"Now that TPTB have run out of 'other people's money,' they have cut down on the goodies and imposed 'austerity.'"

GD opposed all of the above policies, as far as I am aware, and has done so since its founding long before these chickens came home to roost. That's why they have credibility while the mainstream parties don't.

"So now the Greeks get mad and start blaming the immigrants. They should blame themselves, and the 'leadership' they continually elected for their problems."

The Greeks =/= All Greeks. The Greeks =/= Golden Dawn. All Greeks did not support these bad policies, and GD certainly did not. What are you saying, that the Greeks can't vote for GD now because "they had it coming" and aren't allowed to change their minds or admit their mistakes or admit they were fooled by TPTB? Sounds like you're more interested in playing at "Morally Superior Person" over the Greeks rather than just letting the Greeks get on with the business of fixing their own mess. Part of which will include getting rid of the Third World invaders. Part of, not the whole, solution, mind you.

"You cannot fix a problem if you do not know its source."

GD knows its source. It seems you don't know much about GD.

Anonymous cheddarman June 02, 2013 10:33 PM  

You people who think the U.S. is some all powerful invincible colossus laboring for world government are ignoring the fact that when the U.S. dollar goes down as the world's reserve currency, and it will, American power will go down right along with it.

I remember the fall of the Soviet Union. They were unable to project any power outside of their borders when the USSR was breaking up. The only real power they had left was in the form of their ICBM's. It will be the same thing for the U.S.

Since the US is full of hubris and thinks it can continue to dictate to the rest of the world, the rest of the world is looking for ways to push back.

Even now, the BRICS countries and the Europeans are trying to chip away at the power of the U.S. dollar in world markets. Once China or India finds a way to buy oil from Saudi Arabia in the yuan or rupee, America will need to bend over and kiss its own arse goodbye. There will be no more monetization of our debts, since no one would buy our debt, and the empire will be bankrupt. No money to pay the military, and bully and threaten the rest of the world. No money to pay for the welfare-warfare state.

Anonymous stats79 June 02, 2013 10:43 PM  

Golden Dawn is news because no one expected admirers of Nazism to rise politically in any EU country.

Out of curiosity, how do you know that members of Golden Dawn admire the Nazis? Yes, you would get this impression from Western media, but do you actually have any evidence of this sentiment?

Anonymous bbtp June 02, 2013 10:56 PM  

augustina:

"They then decided to continually vote for one form of socialism after another to fund their 'sit around and drink coffee and bitch' lifestyle."

http://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DatasetCode=ANHRS

Hours actually worked per worker are far higher in Greece than, e.g., Germany. The real issues are:

1) Greece is really corrupt, meaning that ambitious people try to become connected rather than to create value.

2) Greece is a semi-developed country with a relatively low-productivity economy, so the productivity of a Greek worker putting in 50 hours/wk <<< the productivity of a German worker putting in 35 hours/wk even if the positions are menial.

3) Greece doesn't have an obvious niche in the age of multinationals; labor isn't cheap enough to compete with Asia, productivity/worker quality isn't high enough to compete with Germany. You see the same problem in Italy, which has lots of small manufacturing firms but no GE. Being small means you can't securitize your debt at 0.2%, you can't buy into Chinese mega-factories, you can't attract the attention of Wal-Mart as a distributor, etc.

Most countries have this problem these days...

--bbtp

Anonymous civilServant June 02, 2013 11:20 PM  

... when the U.S. dollar goes down as the world's reserve currency, and it will, American power will go down right along with it.

When the American markets go down what will happen to all the nations with export economies?

Once China or India finds a way to buy oil from Saudi Arabia in the yuan or rupee

And if frogs had wings. One so often hears such assertions unbacked by anything real. Given the reasons for the PetroDollar then under what circumstances would the House of Saud accept anything other than dollars?

Anonymous Mr. Pea June 03, 2013 2:20 AM  

...when the U.S. dollar goes down as the world's reserve currency, and it will, American power will go down right along with it.

Yeah. You're right. Because the United States has no desire for a global currency. Not even a global government body.

Look! Shiny object!

Anonymous Daybreaker June 03, 2013 4:27 AM  

The anti-whites have settled on the rhetorical weapon with which they intend to demonize the idea that Greece is for the Greeks. It's simple: they will scream Nazi over and over.

Just in this short article...

1. Angry men and angry women furiously screaming "Greece belongs to Greeks" in the heart of ancient Athens, as tourists – some befuddled, some shocked – looked on or fled at the sight of neo-Nazis coming to town.

2. Amid a dramatic surge in attacks on immigrants blamed on the neo-Nazis...

3. Emboldened by success, the neo-Nazis have become ever more visible.

4. It was vital, he said, that domestic and international anti-racism laws were enforced to crack down on violence that had been "linked to members or supporters, including parliamentarians, of the neo-Nazi political party Golden Dawn".

5. "Even if the law is passed, the message that is conveyed is that democracy is divided in knowing what to do with this neo-Nazi threat."

6. However, the neo-Nazis' rise defies any notion that all is well.

7. The neo-Nazis have succeeded not only in demystifying brutality; they are a reflection of the fear and poverty in this country.


Mass immigration plus forced integration is white genocide. Golden Dawn is resisting the genocide of the Greeks. Its partial success should give hope to us all.

If this simple technique - screaming a hate-word over and over in the mass media - would succeed in turning whites internationally against our Greek brothers and sisters and getting us to support international action against them, it would be a sign that we are stupid and we're going to die. I don't think we are, and I don't think we will.

Anonymous Poglavnik June 03, 2013 4:36 AM  

As someone who`s country is becoming part of EU next month I welcome the rise of nationalist party`s.I can only hope that the end of EU is near.

But I have no illusion`s, there is no political party in Croatia that is anti-EU, there is no golden dawn here.

Blogger Doom June 03, 2013 4:43 AM  

Fire meet fire? Had to happen. Surprised it didn't happen long ago. Everyone was getting a cut, so stayed on the hush. Once the goodies started to become, or appear really to become, scarce, those holding the reigns are trying to take the cream and leave the chaff. Now there is a problem.

I simply hope America can retain some semblance of what we have known. I wouldn't mind some vast changes, to almost everything. A stronger social, civil, structure is going to suck, even though it is what I want. And it will come, whether the globalists, nationalists, or we win. No more bullshit or acceptance which ends up being forced tolerances. No more allowances for inequality, save that they get bread if they can't produce at all, and if they are humble about it. Actually, the easy way to know if we have won is if the vote is restricted to those who pay in. But in other ways, there won't be as much of a difference, if the crushing of the soul will be in different areas.

That is, if we survive the conflagration in the first place. Europe, America, China, Russia... none are safe. And... it pleases me. This isn't the one, but... it should be one of the finest dress rehearsals for the end times we have ever seen as the various species of men and men-things. Now THAT sends a shiver up me timber... er, leg. Yum!

Anonymous karsten June 03, 2013 7:30 AM  

Excellent comment from Daybreaker. If the media brainwashing were not so ubiquitous, Europeans would see that any comparison between the NSDAP and Golden Dawn redounds to the credit of both parties: true lovers of their homeland who are trying to save it from destruction, from a plot so genuinely devious and sinister, and so vast in its magnitude, that it is the stuff of a epic saga. The very scale of the evil makes it incomprehensible to an indoctrinated populace.

If there are any Greeks who still have the blood in their veins of those who fought at Thermopylae, they are in the Golden Dawn.

Anonymous augustina June 03, 2013 7:37 AM  

I realize there are a tiny minority of Greeks who didn't vote for the policies that were implemented for the last couple of generations. Nevertheless, the sudden turning to Golden Dawn and other like groups includes plenty of people who either did nothing about these policies or supported them.

I don't mean to pick on the Greeks. Everything I say can be said about the EU in general, and the US as well. But the story was about the Greeks.

I remain unimpressed with protest movements in general. The Greeks have been rioting for several years now. And what, exactly, has that gotten them? Last year they just installed an EU technocrat. The Greeks have blamed capatilism, the bankers, the EU, Germany, the Jooos, and the immigrants. I don't deny that any of those above may have contributed to their problems. I just think that protest movements, and their attendant riots do nothing to solve the problem. Their are just means of venting steam while the powers that be herd the sheep into their pens.

So some Greeks want to become more nationalist, and fix their country? Good for them and I support them wholeheartedly in their endeavors. Do I think that is what is going on here? I'll believe it when I see it. When they actually live it. Here's how: get married in the Church, have a bunch of kids, mommas stay home and love and nurture those kids, be responsible for their education, teach them their culture, their history, their heritage. Make the kids proud of their culture that they want to grow up and have kids and do the same.

Yeah, I know, that's long hard work. But running out to a protest movement and venting your anger isn't what it takes. The sudden rise in Golden Dawn means that there are many Greeks who are just using them to vent their frustration. If that leads to them bettering their society, then good. But I'm not going to hold my breath.

Anonymous karsten June 03, 2013 7:37 AM  

meh's trenchant June 02, 2013 10:13 PM comment pretty much puts paid, not only to the "Greece gets what it deserves" nonsense, but also to the whole insidious meme that "we did it to ourselves." No, WE didn't destroy ourselves, here or in Europe. It was done to us by the latter-day Sanhedrin and their Cultural Marxist shabbas goys. But the rise of the Golden Dawn suggests that maybe, just maybe, the West won't go down without a fight.

The Golden Dawn are the heroic 300. No less.

Anonymous the abe June 03, 2013 8:28 AM  

Factoid:

A Greek woman at work relayed something interesting. All that German bail-out money Greece has gotten? You'd never know it to try and follow the story in the news media, but that money has strings attached to it.

i.e. Greece had to buy submarines from Germany that are collecting dust (or barnicles, I guess) that they never needed or wanted to begin with, to get the funding.

Corporate welfare by other means.

Blogger Shibes Meadow June 03, 2013 8:45 AM  

An American Golden Dawn would be a nightmare. The scale is too large, and there is no American "nation".

What would be better would be fifty Golden Dawns, each representing a state. Or, better still, a Golden Dawn for whites, for blacks, for Jews, for the Irish... in other words, a Golden Dawn for each of the actual nations that exist in America under the thrall of the United States.

Ethno-nationalism is the cure to the disease of Enlightennment utopiosis. It is a natural cure -- an organic movement arising from something real -- an actual ethnic nation, a entity united by the very real ties of ancestry, language, and culture. But a nationalism of the State -- an artificial entity held together by an ideological elite using naked force -- is an RX for oppression.

GD represents hope. But until whites in Britain, America, and elsewhere wake up to the Three Truths, no nationalist movement there can succeed.

Anonymous fnn June 03, 2013 9:05 AM  

Russian political thinker Alexander Dugin on white nationalism:

http://www.counter-currents.com/2013/06/alexander-dugin-on-white-nationalism/#more-39937
(...)
I consider the “White nationalists” allies when they refuse modernity, the global oligarchy and liberal-capitalism, in other words everything that is killing all ethnic cultures and traditions. The modern political order is essentially globalist and based entirely on the primacy of individual identity in opposition to community. It is the worst order that has ever existed and it should be totally destroyed. When “White nationalists” reaffirm Tradition and the ancient culture of the European peoples, they are right. But when they attack immigrants, Muslims or the nationalists of other countries based on historical conflicts; or when they defend the United States, Atlanticism, liberalism or modernity; or when they consider the White race (the one which produced modernity in its essential features) as being the highest and other races as inferior, I disagree with them completely.
(...)

Anonymous Stilicho June 03, 2013 9:29 AM  

fnn, sounds like Dugin wants the benefits produced by white nationalists, just without all those pesky whites. Doesn't sound very fond of individual liberty either.

Anonymous fnn June 03, 2013 9:30 AM  

Here's how: get married in the Church, have a bunch of kids, mommas stay home and love and nurture those kids, be responsible for their education, teach them their culture, their history, their heritage. Make the kids proud of their culture that they want to grow up and have kids and do the same.

None of this can happen without a political-social movement that opposes the liberal-consumerist ideology that today dominates the West.

Anonymous fnn June 03, 2013 9:37 AM  

"Doesn't sound very fond of individual liberty either."

Of course individual liberty was never a concept much appreciated in Russia-but, ironically enough, there is almost certainly more liberty-for whites-in Russia today than there is in the UK and maybe the US as well.

Anonymous fnn June 03, 2013 9:46 AM  

A good site for those who want to keep up with the ongoing development of the British totalitarian state:

http://freespeechineurope.wordpress.com/

Other European countries are covered as well.

Anonymous fnn June 03, 2013 10:01 AM  

Out of curiosity, how do you know that members of Golden Dawn admire the Nazis?

Loxist diversion. Who cares if they admire the NSDAP-Churchill, Lloyd George and many others found much to admire about the regime in the early 1930's. JFK said admiring things about Hitler even in 1945. It's only important if you're dumb enough to think that GD has plans to invade Poland.

Anonymous Daybreaker June 03, 2013 10:08 AM  

Shibes Meadow: "Or, better still, a Golden Dawn for whites, for blacks, for Jews, for the Irish... in other words, a Golden Dawn for each of the actual nations that exist in America under the thrall of the United States."

Jews exist in America under the thrall of the United States?

Anonymous Stilicho June 03, 2013 10:21 AM  

Jews exist in America under the thrall of the United States?

There are still a couple of banks with gentile CEO's and Americans still have guns. It's horrible, a modern holocaust, just ask Chuckie Schumer, Dianne Feinstein, Carl Levin, Mayor Munchkin, Abe Foxman, et al.

Anonymous Anonymous June 03, 2013 10:41 AM  

Nazis were not left-wing or right-wing. Hitler said socialism was hijacked by the left-wing and used very poorly/against their own nation, he thus took it and used it exceptionally well to get the country off it's feet and then to become the most powerful nation in Europe. He hated the left-wing with a passion because of being globalist communist pigs, but thought of the right-wing as cowards(Which they are). Thus they were neither.

The left-wing media uses 'Far-Right' to demean the right-wing as being fascists, when the right-wing is the only side standing up for free speech and liberty(Not the actual right-wing politicians of course, and most are cowards under the thumb of Globalists.) Main-stream parties are an illusion, a sense of democracy, however false, gets any westerner voting.

I don't really care what anyone says anymore, they say races don't exist, yet globalists are targeting Europeans as a racial group and trying to destroy us, therefore I and any other European are justified to protect ourselves, if Nationalism is what it takes to win, I'll do it, conservatism is not working and we are betrayed, now it's time for war. What else do we have, really?

I'm all for liberty and freedom don't get me wrong but sometimes you have to make sacrifices, we have to do it for our future generations so that they can live in safety once this is all over and have freedom themselves, the way we're going people are too damned selfish only thinking of themselves, never of the next generation having to live in it.

There's only so far you can push a people, and it just so happens they're pushing Europeans - we shake continents and turn deserts into sand.

Anonymous Razoraid June 03, 2013 10:47 AM  

Wouldn't it be ironic if the birthplace of Western civilization ends up being its grave.

Anonymous civilServant June 03, 2013 10:59 AM  

Actually, the easy way to know if we have won is if the vote is restricted to those who pay in.

Pay to play? If one pays more can one vote more?

Anonymous Those Who Are Too Big To Fail June 03, 2013 12:43 PM  

civilServant: "Pay to play? If one pays more can one vote more?"

What an excellent idea. We should increase taxes on those who are not too big to fail, so that they don't vote too much, and direct the finds raised to us, and to affirmative action beneficiaries, so we can vote even more.

Anonymous Nathanael June 03, 2013 1:14 PM  

Hail the Golden Dawn! Greece for Greeks!

http://faithandheritage.com/2013/05/golden-dawn-toll-booths-and-food-handouts/

Anonymous Severen June 03, 2013 1:27 PM  

"Or, better still, a Golden Dawn for whites, for blacks, for Jews, for the Irish... in other words, a Golden Dawn for each of the actual nations that exist in America under the thrall of the United States."

Ryan Faulk's All Nations Party. I feel like a broken record sometimes, but hardly anyone knows of the ANP (it just got started a few months ago, I think). It has a Youtube page and its own website.

Anonymous karsten June 03, 2013 1:59 PM  

"Wouldn't it be ironic if the birthplace of Western civilization ends up being its grave."

On the other hand, if Golden Dawn succeeds and inspires others in other nations, it might just be the site of its rebirth.

By the way, don't believe everything you read about their so-called "violence":

http://topconservativenews.com/2013/06/major-greek-media-outlets-publish-photoshopped-picture-of-gold-dawn/

Anonymous Bob M June 03, 2013 2:44 PM  

Sorry but Golden Dawn is the (very) poor relative of nationalist movements and is doomed because they have very little to work with. Hitler had the power of German industry to back him up, once he got into power he was able to utilize this and make Germany strong.

Greece? Almost a third world banana republic until very recently and only as developed as it is because of insane borrowing (and not substantial economic development), the country is barely industrialized and - most damaging of all - the people are just not dynamic economically. They just don't have the same qualities as, let's say the Germans, to self-motivate.

Yes, right now the rhetoric and displays of power and pride are attractive, but when it comes to the real substance of pulling Greece out of the mire Golden Dawn will be going against the very character of the people themselves.

Anonymous Bill The Butcher? More than Oh, No, Mr. Bill June 03, 2013 11:00 PM  

Daybreaker--If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck. Neo-nazi is befitting of your status, a wolf in sheep's clothing, cloaked under the guise of "nationalism".


"Mass immigration plus forced integration is white genocide."

No one says you have to be here. Don't like it? Leave. America will be better off without you. Besides, run down the history of European wars and ethnic nationalism. In the end, what constitutes a “European” heritage or identity, other than (some comparative shade of) white skin, and it does not matter anyway, given Europeans penchant for killing themselves.


Shibes Meadow--"an actual ethnic nation, a entity united by the very real ties of ancestry, language, and culture."

The United States has fit that description for 250+ years. Where have you been? American is our ethnicity.


In any event, all you armchair warriors calling for what amounts to a racial war would not be on the front lines, with gun in tow, when the time came to put up or shut up.

Anonymous Daybreaker June 03, 2013 11:23 PM  

I see the anti-white hatred is strong in Bill The Butcher? More than Oh, No, Mr. Bill.

Bill The Butcher? More than Oh, No, Mr. Bill: "Besides, run down the history of European wars and ethnic nationalism. In the end, what constitutes a “European” heritage or identity, other than (some comparative shade of) white skin, and it does not matter anyway, given Europeans penchant for killing themselves."

You are not denying genocide; you are justifying it.

Anonymous Mr. Pea June 03, 2013 11:31 PM  

He said - He said...

No wonder this cesspool is doomed.

Blogger Markku June 04, 2013 6:48 AM  

If that leads to them bettering their society, then good.

If it leads to more strife within the EU and helps its eventual breakdown, it's the best thing that has happened in at least the last twenty years.

Anonymous Bill The Butcher? More Than Oh, No, Mr. Bill June 04, 2013 5:54 PM  

Daybreaker--"You are not denying genocide; you are justifying it."

I'm justifying murder, whites killing whites??? No, I'm DENOUNCING genocide, aka the "final solution". Who's to say that you're white brethren, when attempting to cleanse the earth of "darkies", won't turn on YOU? Careful what you wish for.

Are you going to be on the front lines when the blood starts spilling???

Anonymous Alex June 05, 2013 9:44 AM  

Movimento 5 Stelle isn't a nationalist party, at least not the kind of nationalist party Golden Dawn is. They're in favor of direct democracy, saner environmental policies, and things like that.

If anything, their proposed policies remind me strongly of Switzerland's. They don't think too highly of ius soli, of central government, of party politics, of unions.

If it weren't for the insane, creepy cult-like features and Grillo's hypocrisy and demagoguery I would even support them.

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